And Kunti wanted war – as soon as Krishna comes to take his leave from her after the peace mission fails she sends a message through Krishna … Two characters that stand out in Mahabharat are those of Karna and Bheeshma. It is one of the most debated topics since it involves Draupadi Whom Krishna mentions in his speech to Karna while offering the royal crown of the Kuru kingdom. तत = that/ this - Duration: 5:10. शक्यं = can Karna, the one who called his wife names and insulted her in the Sabha. krishna 17 times ran away from jarasandha who is defeated by karna after 21days of battle.how should u r saying krishna can kill karna. Well in all of the people there, only Karna was the one who stood up to help Draupadi, but she couldnt say a word to him and he misinterpreted this. I quote the passage from Mahabarath only to prove that Karna's hatred for the Pandavas was so huge that it clouded his every judgement.Krishna showed clearly that he too is capable of deceit, to achieve the ultimate goal. You must read the 'Mrutyunjay', then you will know why Karna did so? But all the 4 forsake him. यत = If Were they really warriors?There are many such instances where pandavas n kurus both were at fault. In my opinion, it could have been two things:1) Karna's life was a test. Chronicler..i love your post! Does Draupadi rejects Karna saying that Karna is a Sutaputra? Nothing seems to irk me more. I truly agree,even kunti knew karn was her son, she never convinced pandav not to insult saying sutputra.though karn was alleged to involve in saying draupadi a VAISHYA but non of the pandav were disagree on the saying of draupadi a suputra to karn..How karn left the compony of duryodhan who had given a respect and honor in the adverse aura..Karn never joined duryodhan intentionally,, when all rejected him even he was meant to deserve all equivalent to Arjuna.. In it he very sincerely asks Karna to forgive him for all the things he had to go through in his life. One answer could be the mindset of the audience. Even Krishna fades out because eventually, his son was a drunkard. karna was such a person he had saved pandavas and kept dharma.stayed on words which has given to duryodhana. Dharma has several meanings. But when Jayadratt humiliated her, Yudhishter had left him. It further establishes the fact that if Karna failed in the task, then there is no point of Draupadi rejecting him saying that he is a Sutaputra. Our audience is familiar with the popular version of the story in which Draupadi rejects Karna. He regretted the moment he said it...at the moment..karna was a much bigger victim than draupadi herself. compared to Karna's factual statement...5. This is evident in the next para ....Drona, who was the guru of the princes requests them as a GuruDakshina , the throne of Drupada ( due to an ancient rivalry ) .. and Arjuna , proudly captures Drupada .. But we should also learn that despite get insulted, we must keep our mind calm. युयुत्सुर्वातवेगश्च भीमवेगधरस्तथा | So much for respect and humiiation dude .. Lord Krishna asked Karna how he knew that the Pandavas would win the war, to which he replied, "Kurukshetra is a sacrificial field. He used the word unchaste, meaning not pure. Pandavas n kurus are sides of the same coin. The Vastraharan Scene.. .. Hope this helps. Sorry, but it's true.. she's conniving, mean, and she had 4 men. Draupadi was born to be humiliated in her life....so whatever actions she performed in Mahabharata was just to be get humiliated by other characters! we have sympathy for him. - This is not only to show Karna's true strength, it is also a lesson to Arjuna in the art of appreciating true strength's of the opponent. दवीजा: = O Brahmanas, If still in doubt, you can check the English meaning of Sanskrit words from here: http://spokensanskrit.org/. you all say that abimanyu was killed by unrighteous means ... but the truth is during the war .when chakravuha was formed by kauravas arjuna was not present to penetrate it.. so pandavas ask abhimanyu to do the job .. he says that he knows only how to get in .. he does not know how to come out .. so the pandavas assure him that when he penetrates the vuha they will cover him.... relying on them abhimanyu penetrates the vuha and the pandavas fail to protect him.. so he was naturally surrounded by enemies .. at this point he was alone present between the kauravas .. having being outnumbered he was killed....... there is no adharma done by karna or guru dhrone in killing abhimanyu ,it was pandavas carelessness which got him killed, i think karna was best during the virat yudh he fight without dijaya dhanush n also he was undefeatable tht time coz he have cawaz instead arjun used the sambohan astras which make all unconscious regarding gandharva capturing the duryodhana karna was weapons less tht time n also they r in full entertainment ragarding who is best karna wid a solo power has got digbijaya but whisch is possible only wid combination of whole pandavas simply karna is best. But guys, what was right then is supposed to be right now and will remain so after thousand years .. and what they did can never be classified as right .. This was the comment that he passed .. and yes, do note that he opposed the Vastraharan scene considering it beneath his stature .... Now, you all blame Karna for telling the god-awful truth , but none of you guys actually point a finger at the Pandava ( Yudhisthira ) who had never won Draupadi as a rightful wife but still deemed to put her as a baazee in the game . MUST READ: Different names of Karna in Mahabharat | Karna is not his original name. I know anyone can justify this ..saying that it was the prevalent norms and so on .. But the fact is Karna possessed all 5 of those qualities.. then why didnt krishna allow draupadi to marry him.. Infact it was Krishna who reminded her of her rights to chose whom she would like to marry.As far as the Viraat war is concerned Karna didnt run away.. Duryodhana got injured while fighting with Arjuna, so karna like a true friend took him to safety. Draupadi and Lord Krishna shared a strong bondage and though they were not real brother and sister, but their love was never lesser than that. The village is named KONDAL, Mayiladuthurai Taluk, Nagapattinam District, Nidur P.O, Tamil Nadu. If she would not insult Karna, Karna would never insult her. Personal opinions/ assumptions would mostly be baseless and cannot be trusted up on or considered for further arguments. Bheem? But Kunti wanted comforts of palace, so is the ambition of that widow responsible for Mahabarata?Back in Hastinapur, it is natural for Duryodhan to resent these cousins who had no claims suddenly coming up for claims. Thus he had been released from his human form being blessed by Vishnu at the end.2) Karna was born indestructible, we all know that without Krishna's trickery, nothing could've killed Karna. Even Yudhistra never stopped his brothers from insulting Karan when he was supposed to be dharmaraj. Moreover, Krishna very well knows the reason behind her having five husbands (Lord Shiva's boon etc.). We all know that 'KRISHNA' was the reincarnation of vishnu... and like all reincarnations this one too had a purpose.. what we all know is that he was born to kill his uncle 'KANSA'.. but thats not totally true.. Krishna was born to reduce the no of SHATRIYAS.. as most of them were immortal and hence there was no balance.. lot of them were unjust. This offer of Krishna to Karna is the most discussed part from Mahabharata. They do not want to mess with it for the sake of authenticity. This and the slaying of Abhimanyu were two mistakes which were unpardonable. He even admired Arjuna's abilities...was proud of his little brother, but he swore to kill arjuna...that is the only reason he let other 4 pandavs live and not all five.Karna's story is not just about his greatness and story of how was he wronged....but its also a really sad story of how such a great man fell.Even Ashwatthama was an awesome man...fate just had them on the wrong side in battle field. Another reason could be due to TRP (Television Rating Point). Draupadi and Krishna – A Multi-Layered Bond . विविंशतिर्विकर्णश्च सहो दुःशासनः समः ||१|| Many scholars having been amazed by the depth of their relationship have often suggested that there was more to Krishna Draupadi friendship than met the eye. In early days (Mahabharatha time) it was not uncommon to praise the opponent for a move well done - but hatred blinds your judgment and once that happens, you are blinded to the basics of etiquette. Note , he was indisguise at that time & hence could not even reveal his kingship ...4. what he said then was his downfall and a word of frustration of really angry man. Here's the most important conversation between Karna and Sri Krishna that is an eye opener - Mahabharata the Epic of Epics has some beautiful aspects of … The question about Karna could be placed better, if it followed another question ‘who in the entire Mahabharata, actually liked Draupadi very much, and supported her sincerely, apart from Krishna, and controversially her husbands. He never proved that he is Superior warrior as compared to Arjuna. Still he was about to help draupadi....if krishna was even a moment late, karna would've killed Dushashan. History praises those who win. It is not possible, since in the Dwaapar Yug, Caste system did not exist, but, Varna system existed. And Karna during all instances even until the end had never thought about himself. It is said that Krishna and Draupadi shared an iconic relationship. Nope. Doesnt mean he didnt care. One cannot know who their biological mother and/ father is until & unless told by her. In order to avoid a matchless confrontation, she confronts Karna (confident that a man of Karna's stature would never so anything to a woman ) .. and says that she would not marry a Suta Putra even if he would become the king of the Heaven ..A silent but dignified Karna merely looks at her , puts the bow back in place & look skywards at the sun.. as if seeking an answer as to what he did to recieve it ..... .. Now most of the sane minded among us would consider this as humiliation .. but more importantly, it was Draupadi's brother who actually played a bigger but inadverent part in Draupadi's ( and I repeat Draupadi's Humiliation )......3. Second Instance : During the Sywayamvar , all the kings tryout but ( obviously) even fail to lift the bow .... and so does Duryodhana .. Now Comes Karna .. I have read many tales of indestructible forms of humans eventually falls at the hands of Vishnu. Anoop - i see that too. Just to add to his arguments - when Yudhishtra laments at Krishna was blinding him to the fact that Karna was indeed his brother and used him to kill Karna, Krishna laughs it off and says - "why do you keep blaming yourself as if you killed Karna? And no, Draupadi had no soft spot for anyone other than her five husbands. Also, there would be less drama which is bad for makers of the TV show as, without drama, it is very difficult to keep the audience engaged. Dronacharya was so drunk in pride of Arjuna that he sacrificed Eklavya, he ignored his own son, and he is indirectly the cause of the miseries of Karna. She forgave Jayadratha after he abducted her. You are talking about karna insulted draupadhi then why draupadhi insulted karna in swayamwar by calling him sutaputra if she want to marry arjuna then he had to arange the swayamwar according to her choice by wish, why they aranged the competitionAnd karna did not call her as whore, the draupadhi asked with bishma how a kulavadhu become the bet in dice karna interfere and said you are not kulavadhu (kulavadhu means women married and live truly with one man) by married more than four men you violate the principle so you are not kulavadhu karna said, If she want to choose her husband in swayamwar she had to making swayamwar as choosing husband by her choice . But because with all of this, Karna still sided with the untruth or adharma. Then Pandu did another selfish thing. Thanks & do comment in case you see any discrepancy, These are just my understanding and I could be wrong. !You see, history if often written by those who screwed heroes ... .. And oh ! Karna is one of the most wonderful characters of this epic according to Lord Krishna. He also never endorsed Duryodhan's and Shakuni's treachery and preffered combat as a means to trounce his counterpart. Mahabharata symbolizes the end of Dwapar yug and the start of Kali yug. - Arjuna was angered at this compliment and lamented to Krishna in anger and said "You have never complimented to any of my heroid deeds but here you're complimenting an enemy who is out here to kill me??" She used to bring all the news of Krishna to her and Krishna was himself aware that Draupadi longs for him. To me the most fascinating and attractive part about Karna as a character is that in spite of having such tremendous qualities he is still a human. शल्य = Shalya In this version, Karna is among the group of participating kings in the Swayamvar. Krishna was testing how much can Karna sacrifice and how much is he taken up by greed. It is Karna who stands out the entire episode . Karna, the noble one, the virtuous one, the charitable one, the son of the Sun God himself, had a life which seemed to be one long suffering. People do charity to gain back anything in return. Karna was the great person but because of his words about Panchali made him evil from the Pandavas view.He preferred Durodhanas side was not his falt. In Mahabharat, even Suyodhan was a good person. It is not easy to leave the throne but he did so out of guilt and out of loyalty towards his friend. He gave milk to Ashwasthama as his parents were giving flour mix water as a milk to him due to their poor financial conditions, only he recognised true qualities of Karna and made him king despite his low birth. Krishna: Do you know that you are the eldest Kunti Putra. Not only did Krishna offer the throne to Karna, but he also made it clear that Draupadi, as the wife of the Pandavas, would be Karna’s wife also! i agree with you CK, people do fail to see the injustice he served on otehrs - but why i admire him is not ocz he is fault less or he is right - but coz he had teh spirit to fight, to back his friend when he knew that he will never succeed - who on his right mind will think that he have got a chance againist krishna? Obviously, they didn't give a damn about her. For me the only lesson I get is that mahabharat had to happen because of social decadence and increase of evil among kingdoms. Still he was about to help draupadi....if krishna was even a moment late, karna would've killed Dushashan.I dont compare Karna and Krishna, they both understood why the other did what he did...they both respected each other immensely and so do I. I would say he still achieved nirvana because of his generous nature, and loyalty. His mission fails but before leaving for Upaplavya, meets Karna alone. The 4 important relations in the life of anyone are maata pita guru bhagwan. Third Instance ::: No sight of Arjuna or anyone who can lift the bow , suddeny some Brahmins come ( obviously Arjuna ) and tries to enter the Swayamvar .. to which Duryodhana reports that 'Drishtadyumna himslef proclaimed that only Kings of Kings can marry his sister .. If you like this article, then please share it on your facebook and in WhatsApp groups so that more and more people are aware of the authentic Mahabharata. I dont think that was a humiliation .. Now before you think that I am one of those male chauvinistic pig who would support Karna blindly , let me assure that I am at best , a measured observer , nothing more or nothing less ...Draupadi was already humilated to begin with at the following stages ----- >1. on top of that.. she marries 4 brothers.. tell me HONESTLY... can you respect a woman like that? He knew draupadi had wished for 5 qualities in her husband, which were seen one in each of the pandavas... thats why she had to marry 5 men.. Now section 177 says that Karna was among the participants (kings) & section 179 says that all the kings failed in the task. Cant she choose who she wants to marry? Then Karna suggested they still had Draupadi to wager and this may become their only chance to win back everything. उग्रायुधो बलाकी च कनकायुर्विरोचनः ||२|| So, the question of Karna protecting Drauapdi from Shishupala doesn’t arise. If husbands themselves disrespect then Karna disrespecting her should not have any value, especially since he did not use the word "vaishya". My point is we cannot ignore or object our Puranas, unless and until we have any solid proofs/ points to defend our statements. The living example is all says Bhisma, Drona and Karna were on Adharma side because they had lost and killed. Just put yourself in Karnas position. And I have no wish to become the king. एते चान्ये च बहवो धार्तराष्ट्रा महाबलाः |, अथोदतिष्ठद्विप्राणां मध्याज्जिष्णुरुदारधीः ||१||, यत्कर्णशल्यप्रमुखैः पार्थिवैर्लोकविश्रुतैः |, तत्कथं त्वकृतास्त्रेण प्राणतो दुर्बलीयसा |, बटुमात्रेण शक्यं हि सज्यं कर्तुं धनुर्द्विजाः ||५||, तव अकृतास्त्रेण = No knowledge of the weapon, Yaksha Prashna – Riddle contest between Yudhishthira & Yaksha (Crane), Barbarik Story: Strongest warrior in Mahabharata – Finish war in 1 minute, Different names of Karna in Mahabharata | Karna is not his original name, https://mythgyaan.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/draupadi_rejects_karna.mp4, Different names of Karna in Mahabharat | Karna is not his original name, 34 Amazing Death Note Quotes (& Images) That Will Make You Think, 18 Amazing Facts About Maharana Pratap That Will Blow Away Your Mind, Why you cannot do charity without self-realization, Battle of Dewair/Diver (1582) – When Maharana Pratap defeated Mughals, 50 Amazing Harry Potter Quotes That Will Change Your Life, According to Manu Smriti, the people who have a Kshatriya father and Brahmin mother are of. It is none of them . Draupadi Cheer Haran, Lord Krishana did not save Draupadi from Cheer Haran. He had all the qualities of all pandavas combined. Following incident is mentioned in the Mahabharata. Krishna wanted the war, he had promised to ensure it happens to Draupadi. We take revenge if someone humiliate us. After extensive research of 60 years, they came up with “The Critical Edition of the Mahabharata”. Its not that Arjun wasn't a mighty warrior himself, but then he was always assisted by Lord Krishna and in some sense that takes away the sheen from this otherwise marvelous character.For me, when it comes to choosing my favorite character in Mahabharata, it comes down to either Lord Krishna or Karna, and its not very difficult to make a choice, for Gods are bound to be great but one seldom comes across great humans. Why he did not take the efforts to create a knowledge databank consisting of written scriptures, astrological texts to disseminate his knowledge and illuminate the hungry minds. Ultimately do you remember Nakul? Why did Draupadi not protest when she was told to marry five husbands instead of one? The Pandavas arrived at the Swayamwar dressed as Brahmins and Arjuna won the hand of the bride by fulfilling the archery contest which renowned men there lost. Remember no one really won the war in the end. Somewhere I read that this was necessary and part of leela by Krishna. I used these two words together to connote 'the truth, or secret of dharma' This blog is to help me think, question, understand and resolve the truth surrounding my dharma. Karna was known as daanveer Karna. Pranav - there is a lot of truth to what you've said.However, when you conclude that Karna epitomized loyalty and generosity, i think that is going overboard. Karna was already killed 5 times before; you just finished off an already dying prey".1) When Indra asked for his armour2) When Kunti asked for the wish of Karna not killing anyone else but Arjuna3) When Parasuram cursed karna that he will forget the mantras to invoke astras4) When a sage cursed him that his chariot will be stuck in mud and his charioteer abandoned him at that juncture.5)When Krishna disguised as a brahmana asks for Karna's punyas (good deeds) as a gift - this is because Karna will not die on the battlefield because Lady Dharma will be protecting him from all harm/that mortal shot from Arjuna's bow - karna becomes impenetrable at that point and therefore unconquerable - Krishna takes away that from him and then Karna is killed.Now the interesting point to note here is:When Karna is almost dead/dying - Krishna is so pleased with Karna because even at that point, he did not refuse to donate - as far as Karna was concerned nothing belonged to him - Austerity - that is the foremost principle which a brahman should adhere to.So when Krishna asked Karna for his wishes, Karna's wishes were:1) When he dies on the battlefield, his real mother (kunti) should be informed and she should cry for his death for the whole world to hear his true heritage/lineage - he was denied this opportunity in life, at least let it be granted in death.2)If because of his orientation on the battle (alignment with the Kauravas), he is to suffer the process of rebirth - he wanted to be born as a brahman in a worthy family - the reasoning was, that the one thing that he could not do when he was Karna was provide Anna Dhaana - giving away food to the poor - because people did not want to eat the food fed by a person of questionable lineage.The most impressive part in this is, that when people are dying - they usually wish for either a protraction of life or for easing of suffering and the irony is that Karna asked for those just as any other person would do: He wanted to ease his suffering (not from wounds) but from shame he had to go through all his life of being a son of a charioteer and he wanted a continuation in life so that he can do the one thing that was denied to him in his previous birth - The ability to donate food.Karna was the only person to whom Krishna revealed one of his many forms - the form where he sits on Garuda!Karna was indestructible - and therefore had to be "put down" in an indirect way - if not for all other stories in Mahabharatha - one of them should suffice:Arjuna and Karna were engaged in a mon-a-mono combat and Arjuna hit Karna's chariot with an arrow, which dislodged karna's chariot by a hundred paces. नानृतं = could not Why do you think it to be so? Yudhistir? He always wanted to know who it was who let him off in the river in that little box. 'Daughter of Drupada'), also referred as Panchali and Yajnaseni, is the tragic heroine, one of the central characters and the common wife of the Pandavas in the Hindu epic, Mahabharata.She is described to be the most beautiful woman of her time and was prophesied to bring a major change in the future. karna is man of his word2.he never afraid of his death even though he knew he is going to die3.If he wants he can be the king but he decided to be a friend U honestly belief that draupathi is pativratha where in the hell or in heaven or anywhere did u see a women marries his husbands 4 brothers well i havent except here In mahabharath arjuna had the support of krishna,lord hanuman,during the war but karna fought alone with all three and he was still killed unfarelywhat makes u think that arjuna is greater than karna. 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