The manga is technically the only true canon for Dragonball/Z. Vegeta even achieves 超サイヤ人 transformation-state due to the thought that a 'low-level piece of trash' could ever surpass him.. xD. It's more of an alternate "what if?" Yeah. In regards to inconsistencies, GT has the least amount of inconsistencies of all three series http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Inconsistencies. EDIT: Akira Toriyama has come out and said, in the light of Battle of the Gods realease, that GT is NOT cannon. fans of the Dragonball series sees Dragonball GT as a horrible addition to the franchise. One could argue that it is canon to the anime as it is set in the timeline of the Dragon Ball universe. GT would have the least inconsistencies because there was no manga for it, thus, no filler. The movie isn't even worth watching, IMO. GT is worth watching, but I would use english dub and english subtitles. The reason GT started off on the wrong foot was because the cretor Akira Toriyama wanted to put the series to rest after working on the manga and the anime for 10 years straight, which can drain anyone's creativity down a lot. Inconsistancy has nothing to do with weather it is canon or not. Toriyama was the mastermind behind the serialized story, and Dragon Ball fans consider the artist’s manga to be the bible of all things canon. But timeline-wise they don't clash at all. Dragon Ball GT can fit into the timeline, but so can future Trunk's timeline, technically. Yes, Non Canon! 'Just a minor correction, 'Raditz would not have been defeated if it wasn't for Gohan's attack that weakened Raditz. Some people prefer to think of it as just a long fanfic or a "what-if" doujinshi that was adapted into an anime - Jcdizon416 21:01, August 20, 2011 (UTC), You can go to the Dragon Ball GT page for this one. Well, GT is like a filler. GT is just as canon as the movies. It is a minor series, which was created by Toei Animation. http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Inconsistencies, http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragonball_af, http://25.media.tumblr.com/2667b695503fe38595077dd7c090a2ad/tumblr_ml9r6na6Vt1qfp0n5o1_1280.jpg, http://osupaxkamehamehax808o.tumblr.com/post/48103659668/or3pt1l14nxk1ll4o-my-father-gohan-trained, http://osupaxkamehamehax808o.tumblr.com/post/48104101347/or3pt1l14nxk1ll4o-goku-jr-transforms-into-a, https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Is_Dragonball_GT_canon_or_not%3F?oldid=1369524. I'm a DBZ fan, and to me the creators of GT weren't DBZ fans, or else they were only Goku fans, because they give all the attention to Goku, they never give a single other character a meaningful fight. There are plenty of inconsistencies throughout Dragon Ball’s run in regards to the strength and speed of characters. Thus, making a possibility that GT is canon. The existence of Dragon Ball Super introduces Super Saiyan God to follow Super Saiyan 3, but Super Saiyan 4 is never addressed. He must be from the new movie. 537073685 >>537065959 Baby Vegeta is a good inclusion but why SSJ4 Gogeta when we already have SSB Gogeta? (insert source here). I can't wrap my head around the idea of a character who is immensely stronger than a planet buster (Freiza), could be hurt by anything less than a planet busting attack. It's not part of the story he made. End of story, there is no argument for it. In fact, I actually liked GT a lot better than the last Saga of DBZ but I'm sorry, it is not cannon. future. And neither of them can fit into the timeline of the DBZ manga or the series. I'm just confused now. Now, it is up for fans to decide whether they’ll add it to their personal canon or not. Toriyama wrote one and didn't write the other. Fair enough? Even though the anime is heavily based off of the manga, there are enough differences between the two to almost consider them as different canons. Pan is strong, it seems she's even stronger than Trunks, Goten and Gohan which is ridiculous as well as being braver. And of course the 95% are his ideas, because is an anime, an animation series based on a original manga, an animation copy! & in the manga/canon "Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock", Bardock transfoms into a 超サイヤ人 after his newly found friend Berry leaps forward, protecting Bardock from Chilled's finishing blow, in an act of courage to save him. Sandubadear (talk) 01:23, March 25, 2013 (UTC). Using that logic, all of Z is non-canon due to Garlic Jr. appearing. Battle of Gods doesn't make GT noncanon because Battle of Gods can be seen as noncanon. DGT is canon in the ANIME timeline. Dragon Ball GT may seem to be like a main series, but it is not actually main. The problem is that events mentioned to have happened in the history of DBO contridict events from DBGT. Even still, Toriyama helped with the story and even drew the character designs for most of the characters, but he was tired of drawing DB and just gave guidance to the story. Ya think? Your canon tier states that GT with less involvement of Torimaya falls under C-canon. Let's say DBO exists years after GT. & Bardock's RagingSoul was driven by the rage he felt towards Frieza & his 'elites', who set-up Bardock's crew, despite how loyal, & brave/courageous Bardock & his crew were to Frieza - taking on missions that baffled even Frieza's 'elites'. Also, Dragon Ball GT does not have the criteria for lack of validity that Dragon Ball AF has http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragonball_af. With Super taking place within the ten-year time jump after the end of Dragon Ball Z, the possibility remains that GT could still be considered canon so here's an overview of the divisive series as we figure out if the events of Super contradict GT and seal … He just didn't head off the story. ‘Dragon Ball GT' Producer Reveals Its Involvement With Akira Toriyama, Bleach Confirms Art Exhibition Start Date, My Hero Academia Artist Shares Stunning Wonder Woman 1984 Sketch, Attack On Titan's Final Season English Dub Will Land On Funimation Next Year, Boruto Seems to Be Rid of a Main Villain For Good, Dragon Ball Super Reveals Beerus' Punishment for Merus Dying. So Toriyama did have some connections to GT. It's only in non canon non Toriyama approved trash anime filler garbage. Overall, he beats Nappa, Vegeta, Recoome, Burter, Frieza, Yakon and Buu. As it is not from the official source, it is from the Anime creators themselves and a lot of fans get confused about this because the writer of the script is Akira Toriyama, himself. My point is, if GT includes a character that's unarguably non-canon, then it is very likely non-canon itself. I win. GT is on the same level of canon as filler. Also super saiyan god is any level of super saiyan transformation above super saiyan 3 and super saiyan 4 is obviously above super saiyan 3. Personally, I can't find it in myself to stand for it. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Then ya got your GT. I agree, though. But actually it is non canon. GT is a side story, it happened but it didn't really matter since the story really ended with the buu saga, Gt is like an epilogue if you will. Super happens during the ten year time skip between the end of Majin Buu and the last episode of DBZ. Doesn't matter if he drew some concepts or not. 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